W-space has similar AI, but you can trying doing lvl 2 missions in a T3 with officer fit, should be a suitable difficulty level.

I hope they aren't "the many". I'd hate to think that "the many" was a bunch of entitled baddies who think high level PVE should be something they can solo without effort or thought and make insane amounts from.

I include my logi in a cap chain and it can run its large ancillary booster on auto repeat... empty

it warps in and fights with drones right next to my battleships

your logi kung-fu is weak

give you?

I showed you my fit, plug it into EFT yourself, with your skills

Actually, more cry babies - less competition, and more room for real tough guys.

I'd love complexes to be soloable, without dual boxing... i don't see how plexes can be a group activity, finding one is hard, but getting a dummy team mate and not getting ganked is tripple RISK

100% of the time i went in a belt and tackled something, all the npcs switched instantly. I did adapt, but i do not
enjoy another change that promotes blobs and cripples the small gang. I know pilots that like to
solo roam with frigates and bombers, i doubt they will be able to have fun with this.

Well to be fair, if they want missions to truly be like PVP a mission would start with one ship. Once you tackle it, 15 of his NPC friends warp in and blap you

And the solution is to peeve them off, even those that may be unbiased.

People in null doing sites are probably just as affected by TD, and the HM nerf (if they haven't refit to HAM already).

6 different flights of drones in a Domi I used to have.
Just handling the window alone when recalling one flight and launching another (both expanded) was annoying, and took up quite a bit of screen-estate.

You know, I wouldn't play this game if I had no respect for CCP. I do have it, but it fades aways little by little.

The thing is CCP has no respect for the players.
Making this game unplayable for a certain type of players, making NPC AI changes with Zero testing, making EWAR unbearable like on Serpentis/Sansha rats and many other things, all of those things show the absence of CCP's respect fot the players.

This thread has been cleaned a little.

So what people are going to do now, is take a deep breath, step away from the keyboard and calm down.

Any further attacks made on CCP Employees and members of ISD will be dealt with to the full extent of the forum rules.

Be aware of this and think before you post.

My guess it really doesn't, as long as you pay money.

I think the only thing will help here is some kind of mass unsub.
In this case CCP might change something. Otherwise your feedback or opinion doesn't matter, just like mine.

Why would a 0.0 plex pay better than a class 5 WH?

This appears to be a thread about how the NPC AI hurts drone boats. You say you don't use drone boats. You then say you are awaiting a suggestion on how you can see how awfully flawed the new AI is. I believe the suggestion would be to use a drone boat.

The only real change for solo non-drone boat users is the increased EWAR. If you find increased EWAR to be more interesting, so that you don't have to afk-play, then more power to you. To say though that there isn't a problem because it doesn't effect you at all, is a bit disingenuous.

http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Dread_Guristas_Fleet_Staging_Post

That's what I solo'ed yesterday, don't know if its a 8 or 10 but there was a torp that keep hitting me for 10k every 25 seconds.

Based on what? I'm not looking for an argument either, I'm explaining to you a fact. A fact I've verified personally before and after the npc AI change. Have you ever even tried to solo one of the 4 10/10s (or any of the 8/10s) I've described?

You are free to ignore facts you dislike, it's just not very smart and makes everything else you say less credible.

Today another friend left the game due to the changes and having no fun anymore. 7 years, every day in the same channel and now hes gone. I dont know, if it was really worth to change the game like this. One can not simply take an online player everything he liked to play, without having to bear the consequences.

That leads me to another thing. If a game gets unbalanced, it gets uninteresting very fast. Even after 10 years of playing. I always thought, we play this game forever, no matter what happens, but I was wrong. My friend left without saying much, just its bored and he wanna have fun again. Very sad, that this happens so fast.

I know people here hate WOW but I am going to use it as an example, when wow changed Azeroth to be in line with the other expansions it was to bring old content in to line with new more engaging and entertaining content, instead of leaving a huge boring disconnected chunk of game.5

Excuse me.... what? 12 hours of work = one plex? Umm no sorry.

I think minimum wage in the states is around 7.75 per hour, and most part time jobs are even paying over min wage.

7.75 x 12= 93 Dollars
6 plex = 105 US.
6 x around lets say 550 mil isk = 3.3 bil isk

Subtract gas/transportation and taxes, that's about lets say 2 bil for 12 hours of extra work a week.
Or you can grind out pve and make lets be generous and say 150 mil per hour... that equals out to 1.8 mil.

Well really the purpose of this thread it to have (THE COMPANY) look at it and rethink the issue, they could use some of the ideas here or come up with an even better fix or give up like the original poster wants and roll it back.

It's not my place to see what is the best to fix the issue, but I do hope they are "adamantly concerned and actively looking into it, with hopes to have it fixed "soon"."
(Hey devs if you would post in here you can even use my quoted comment there to give us some feedback.)
please? really? something?

okay

Now when the rats are being blasted to kingdom come and then someone warps into the site and attacks "their" enemy what do they do....

Do they cheer and wipe their brow praising the heavens (or whatever) that a rescuer has appeared...er no they target the new chap and help kill him and then resume being blasted apart by the orignal aggressors...well done CCP.

To be honest I tried the new NPC AI, because I have done lvl 4's long time ago. And it's awful. They ate all my drones in a few mins, and permajammed. So mission running was a boring **** in the old days, and now, it is same boring but more ****. Nice work CCP!

Also my tactic was to run lvl 4 with two accounts, but is it possible now, when NPC's switch targets? Can one ship be the tank and other the damage dealer or this thing is messed up too?

You lost me at "people running missions in null-security space," a statement about as clueless as CCP Omen explaining that he expected PVP Corps to let random neuts use their POCOs because, hey, they might make a few isk (at the risk of letting cyno ships run around free for the 5 seconds it takes the average Nullsec pilot to realize what a terribad idea that is).

No one missions in Nullsec, when you can go AFK mission in highsec for a MUCH higher risk/reward, or farm Faction Warfare stuff on a disposable alt for an even BIGGER risk/reward.

This is especially true given that the only missions in null are in NPC space, which piloting a ship in is pure suicide. Maybe, MAYBE, updating the PVE AI so that PVE, especially deep null PVE, is more akin to PVP will help, but unless you take a long hard look at the risk/reward of Missions in Null -- i.e., buff Null Missions, Nerf Highsec Missions, etc -- then it's a fool's errand.

You are treating symptoms. Try looking at the disease instead.